Series Re-Read: How the Light Gets In

INTRODUCTION BY LESA HOLSTINE

It’s obvious how much Louise Penny and her creations are admired. Robin Agnew, co-owner of Aunt Agatha’s Bookstore, and discussion leader here for The Cruelest Month, was recently quoted in the Ann Arbor Observer. “In my twenty-one years of selling books, I’ve never encountered the passion that people feel for Penny.”

In this forum, readers, librarians, editors, booksellers and publicists have discussed Louise Penny’s books. We’ve talked about Penny herself, how we met her, and how we’ve all grown to see her as a friend. We’ve discussed the settings, whether Three Pines, Montréal, Québec or a monastery. We’ve grown to love her characters; Armand Gamache, Jean-Guy Beauvoir, Reine-Marie, Clara, Ruth, Myrna, Gabri, Olivier, even a duck. And perhaps we’ve all discovered it’s hard to separate Louise Penny, the author and friend, from Three Pines, a place of comfort, where Gamache and his friends return time and again. Do we share a passion for Louise Penny because of who she is, or because of who she is and the gift of the world she has given us?

In How the Light Gets In, Armand Gamache acknowledges that Three Pines is not Eden. “Three Pines, he knew, was not immune to dreadful loss. To sorrow and pain. What Three Pines had wasn’t immunity but a rare ability to heal. And that’s what they offered him.”

Before we can heal, we must suffer. Louise Penny’s first nine books are a finished circle in themselves. We’ve gone from an introduction to Three Pines and Gamache, meeting them both in Still Life. We’ve watched him struggle with past history in the Sûreté du Québec, watched the situation there grow worse, and, now, in How the Light Gets In, we see the culmination of the epic battle between forces, the battle between good and evil. And, of course, it culminates in Three Pines.

One of the underlying story cycles of this series is finished. Gamache and Three Pines will go on, both somewhat changed from their experiences. I see the series as a Venn diagram. There is overlap. Gamache, Three Pines, many of the characters. We still need to find out what happens to Peter and Clara. But the first nine books will always be “Before the events of How the Light Gets In,” while the next books will be, “After the events of How the Light Gets In.”

Thank you for reading with us, discussing Louise Penny’s amazing series. It’s been an honor and privilege to participate in these discussions.

RECAP

Ch. 1-22: The opening chapter introduces a woman who remains a mystery in the first half of the book. Audrey Villeneuve’s story will come to light in the second half. Here, we only see her as a terrified driver viewing the cracks in the Ville-Marie Tunnel. When Gamache questions later, he learns she was a possible suicide victim and a clerk in the roads division of the Ministry of Transport. Audrey Villeneuve’s storyline is kept for the second half of the book.

The second storyline is introduced in chapter two. Constance PIneault, a friend of Myrna’s, leaves the village of Three Pines, with promises to return for Christmas. She left with a statement about playing hockey as a child, seeing it as revealing a secret. Her failure to appear causes Myrna, owner of the bookstore, to contact Gamache.

In chapter three, we learn that Chief Inspector Armand Gamache’s homicide division is under the gun. Chief Inspector Francoeur has torn it apart. The old guard, beginning with Jean-Guy Beauvoir, once Gamache’s protégé, has been transferred out, leaving Isabelle Lacoste and a group of rabble who have been transferred in. The most successful homicide team in the nation has been gutted, and Jean-Guy is emotionally destroyed, addicted to pills. Instead of a crack team, Gamache has a squad whose members are surprised to learn that “he actually believed it. Believed the Sûreté du Québec was a great and effective police force. A breakwater between the citizens and those who would do them harm.” We see that only Lacoste remains loyal to Gamache, the only one within the division who still respects him.

The three storylines slowly come together as Gamache responds to Myrna’s request. He and Lacoste leave for Three Pines. Along the way, they observe a body, later learned to be Audrey Villeneuve’s, being retrieved from the waters of the St. Lawrence.

When Constance Pineault did not show up in Three Pines, Myrna was worried about the seventy-seven-year-old woman. It’s only then that she reveals Constance’s true identity. She was one of the famous Ouellet Quintuplets, once the most famous children in Canada, born to a simple farmer and his wife. When Gamache and Lacoste find Constance murdered in her home in Montréal, it leads to a fascinating story about the Quints. It also leads to a murder investigation, and Gamache agrees to handle it for his counterpart in the Montréal homicide division.

The timing for a murder investigation is perfect, as it provides an opportunity for Gamache to smuggle two friends into Three Pines. Thérèse Brunel, a Superintendent in the Sûreté, and her husband, Jérôme, a retired doctor turned cyber junkie, are helping Gamache dig for answers as to what’s truly going on in the police force. But Jérôme’s computer searches have caught unwanted attention, and it’s dangerous for everyone involved. Three Pines makes the perfect refuge. Or does it? They are safe, but also stuck.

A murder investigation involving a woman whose childhood was so celebrated that she doesn’t seem real. A build-up of tension as Gamache and his few allies dig for dangerous information. A seemingly unrelated death. A name from the past – Arnot. And, the first half of How the Light Gets In ends with Superintendent Francoeur and Inspector Tessier discussing the plot against Gamache, and their use of Jean-Guy Beauvoir. As they send him on raids, ply him with pills, play on his addiction, they see him as the unexploded bomb that could destroy Gamache.

Ch. 23-end: Here’s my recap for you. Or maybe it should be my first question. Are you as emotionally drained after finishing How the Light Gets In as I am? Now, to the actual recap of the book in which Louise Penny unites us with Gamache and the villagers as we wait and prepare, building the tension until it’s so unbearable it has to conclude, as she says, with an explosive ending. Do not read this recap or conclusion if you have not finished the book. This recap is a spoiler.

Thérèse Brunel continues to tell her husband, Jérôme, the terrible story of the treachery at the top of the Sûreté du Québec, and Gamache’s actions that led both to the people’s admiration and to continuing enmity from some of the leadership. And then Gamache adds an unknown quantity to the mixture in Three Pines. He brings in Agent Yvette Nichol, who no one, not even Gamache, knows if he can trust.

It’s the beginning of a long stretch of tension in the book. No one knows if they can trust Nichol, but they need her to set up computer equipment so they can reach out from the isolated village and uncover hidden computer files from the Sûreté.

The only break from the tension comes when Gamache turns back to the investigation of the Ouellet murder, handing Constance’s Christmas presents out to the villagers. It’s Myrna’s gift of a tuque, a hat, that begins to prey on his mind, leading him to search for a missing member of the family, someone who could be a killer. It’s that search for answers that leads him back to Montréal, first to drop off the tuque so he can check on DNA, and then to his department at the Sûreté, where he dismisses the entire staff, effectively shutting it down, and tells Inspector Lacoste he will announcing his resignation in the next day or two.

But his trip back to the Sûreté a second time is shocking, when Jean-Guy Beauvoir turns on him and threatens him with a gun, blaming Gamache for everything, even in the face of the man who says he loves him. Nevertheless, Gamache finishes his errands, meeting with those who may have clues to the story of the Ouellet Quintuplets, before returning to Three Pines.

When they set in motion the plan to dig into those computer files, Gamache and his team are horrified to discover that the plot they’re investigating leads all the way to the Premier of Québec. As they begin to unravel the power grab related to money, death, and a scheme to kill thousands in order to create a new country, the computer hackers in Three Pines attract the attention of the police in the Sûreté. But it’s too late. Gamache’s small group have linked the stories of corruption to top leadership and even the murder of Audrey Villeneuve, who knew more than she should. It’s a story of allowing construction projects to go unfulfilled so they can destroy a dam, a tunnel or a bridge. And it will take one more trip to Montréal for Gamache to wrap up the loose ends. Warning the Brunels and Agent Nichol to stay hidden, he leaves Three Pines hoping to lead Francoeur to follow him. After he’s gone, Myrna and the villagers show up to lead the Brunels and Nichol to safety.

FAVORITE QUOTE

I was so torn. Matthew 10:36 is a recurring quote and theme in the series. “And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.” It’s so important in this series, and this particular book.

But this time, I picked a more positive one. It’s Gamache, reflecting on the dog, Henri. “But he realized Henri already knew all he’d ever need. He knew he was loved. And he knew how to love.”

My favorite quote now is not one I would have picked a year ago when I first read How the Light Gets In. It’s actually Ruth’s statement to Jean-Guy when he brings Francouer’s forces to Three Pines. In talking about Rosa, Ruth actually talks about so much more, as she often does. She talks about Jean-Guy, and, now we know, she talks about the next book in the series, hinting at future events.

Ruth says, “She took the long way home. Some do, you know. They seem lost. Sometimes they might even head off in the wrong direction. Lots of people give up, saying they’re gone forever, but I don’t believe that. Some make it home, eventually.”

CONCLUSION

All the storylines quickly begin to converge. While Gamache wraps up the investigation involving Audrey Villeneuve, he learns why she was murdered. She was about to tell the wrong person, the Premier, Georges Renard, about the structural weakness of the Champlain Bridge. Gamache warns Lacoste to close that bridge before it’s blown up. In the meantime, Myrna wraps up the story of Constance Ouellet and her siblings, telling the story of Gamache’s discovery that there was one more child, a younger son, who grew to hate his sisters, and killed some of them. And, Francouer, Tessier, and a small team head to Three Pines, led by Jean-Guy Beauvoir.

While the villagers put off the police, hiding the Brunels and Nichol, Gamache is on a mad dash back to Three Pines. But Francouer and Tessier are waiting for him. While they think they have him trapped, he jeers at them, informing them his announcement of his resignation was a signal to his former officers, still loyal to him, to take over the Sûreté du Québec. He and Francouer fight to the death, and Gamache dashes toward the schoolhouse to save Jean-Guy from dying in an explosion that has been rigged. But, Jean-Guy, realizing that Gamache does love him, turns up, and is forced to shoot Gamache to stop him from entering the schoolhouse, and blowing himself up when he opens the door.

The final scenes of the wedding and reception for Jean-Guy Beauvoir and Annie Gamache are set in Three Pines after Gamache’s recuperation and Jean-Guy’s stint in rehab. And, even though Armand and Reine-Marie Gamache have retired to Three Pines, Reine-Marie informs Jean-Guy that Armand might retire, but he can’t quit.

DISCUSSION QUESTIONS

  1. What did you know about the Dionne Quintuplets, the model for the Ouellets?
  1. Henri, Ruth, and Rosa often serve to alleviate the tension in the book, adding a little humor. I like comments such as “Henri, while a handsome dog, would never get into Harvard.” Do you have a favorite humorous scene or moment in this first half of the book?
  1. In describing Clara and housework, Penny says, “Clara Morrow was not someone who liked housework. What she liked was magic. Water into foam. Dirty dishes into clean. A blank canvas into a work of art. It wasn’t change she liked so much as metamorphosis.” How do you see this statement relate to Three Pines and the people who end up there?
  1. What do you think Gamache meant when he said, “He wondered in a moment that startled him, whether that’s what this little village was. The end of the road? And like most ends, not an end at all.”
  1. Over and over in the first half of the book, Penny emphasizes safety versus freedom, with Gamache and the Brunels in Three Pines, the Quints, the Crees. “They were safe, but also stuck, like the Quints. Made safe, given everything they wanted, except freedom.” How do you see safety versus freedom?
  1. Let’s talk about celebrity. Myrna looks at the Quints and says she wouldn’t wish celebrity on anyone. How do people suffer because of their celebrity?
  1. The shattered relationship between Jean-Guy Beauvoir and Annie Gamache is illustrated in the sad scene in which they sit in cars outside each other’s homes. In Jean-Guy’s case, “Now he was hungry. Starving. And he stank. The whole car reeked. He could feel his clammy undershirt sticking to him. Molding itself there, like a second skin.” At this point in the book, how do you feel about Jean-Guy Beauvoir?
  1. Ruth’s poem, “Alas,” can refer to so many people, although we now know she wrote it about Virginia Ouellet. Who do you think of in the book when you read “Who hurt you once/so far beyond repair/that you would greet each overture/with curling lip?”
  1. Did you anticipate the brazen plot Renard had hatched? Before reading it, what did you think the plot was all about?
  1. Let’s talk about the Ouellette storyline. Who did you think the killer was, and why?
  1. My favorite scene in the book wasn’t the wedding, but the moment after Thérèse Brunel opens the door to find Myrna there to take them to a safe place, and sees Clara, Gabri, Olivier, and Ruth and Rosa. “The end of the road.” What was your favorite moment in the book, and why?
  1. Who showed the most courage in the book, and why? Gamache, Jean-Guy Beauvoir, the villagers? Someone else?
  1. What did you think was happening when Gamache told Lacoste he was resigning?
  1. Talk about “Old sins have long shadows.”
  1. What do Ruth and Rosa mean to you?
  1. In a book with so many surprises, which one stood out for you?

How the Light Gets In, Part 2

Here’s my recap for you. Or maybe it should be my first question. Are you as emotionally drained after finishing How the Light Gets In as I am? Now, to the actual recap of the book in which Louise Penny unites us with Gamache and the villagers as we wait and prepare, building the tension until it’s so unbearable it has to conclude, as she says, with an explosive ending. Do not read this recap or conclusion if you have not finished the book. This recap is a spoiler. . . .


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How the Light Gets In, Part 1

As we wrap up the discussion on the eve of publication of the tenth book, The Long Way Home, it’s obvious how much Louise Penny and her creations are admired. Robin Agnew, co-owner of Aunt Agatha’s Bookstore, and discussion leader here for The Cruelest Month, was recently quoted in the Ann Arbor Observer. “In my twenty-one years of selling books, I’ve never encountered the passion that people feel for Penny.” In this forum, readers, librarians, editors, booksellers and publicists have discussed Louise Penny’s books. We’ve talked about Penny herself, how we met her, and how we’ve all grown to see her as a friend. . . .


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AuthorLESA HOLSTINE has been a mystery reader since she was a child when she discovered The Happy Hollisters and Nancy Drew. And, she’s been a fan of Louise Penny’s work since she first read Still Life in 2006.

306 replies on “Series Re-Read: How the Light Gets In”

P.S. Paul, can you give us the usual two weeks before the discussion starts? Most of the comments are posted in the first few days after the discussion opens, and that would give everyone a chance to be on the same page (pun intended!). Thanks!

Paul Hochman – will we be able to use this forum to discuss The Long Way Home? Pleeeeeeeze? I’m sure many of us will be able to start talking about it one week after the launch, and others can avoid spoilers, maybe, by only dropping by after they’ve finished reading?

It certainly looks like it is set up for the book group for the next book. I just checked checked the link but of course it isn’t up yet. I think we will all be here for a couple of weeks yet.

I hope we can continue our discussion! I feel as if I snuck in late and I’m standing in a closed bistro – lights turned off, everything set up for morning – hearing the echoes of our wonderful conversations. Maybe this could be turned into an ongoing forum, with sections for comments on each book? I’ll bring the licorice pipes…

Oh my! I’ve been so busy, I have not had time to ‘discuss’ the second half of the book! I’ve enjoyed all your comments and agree so much with your thoughts. I feel like you are all sisters! What a trip! That book left me emotionally drained! I too, have pre-ordered from Amazon, but no notice yet about shipping! Boo-hoo!!

There were actually whole books where I missed discussions because life got in the way. I tried to make up for it with the last couple. Hopefully we will all be here over the next two weeks. But dang if I don’t have to work. And Cathryne has her grand baby……somehow we will all find the time I am sure.

I too want to thank everyone for a wonderful book club experience. Even though I haven’t commented much it has been wonderful to listen to others insights. I just finished the re-read a few moments ago (with lots of Kleenex) since we have just returned from a visit with our newest grand-daughter, born on Aug 8 in Sudbury, ON. We haven’t heard from Meg for a while in this group and I hope that she is busy with life but will soon have some comments….as I’m also hoping the group will continue. I just bought my own paperback copy of How the Light Gets In and am first in line at the Fraser Hickson Library for the new book. Maybe we will make a little excursion to the Eastern Townships to check out Hovey Manor. Will look for you all there.

Yes, Nancy, I was missing Meg too! I noticed she hasn’t been with us for How the Light Gets In. The group grew to be quite a size, with new people joining in. I gather a group is set up to re-read before the launch of each new book, so several people have probably read the books many times. I’m relatively new – I just joined at The Murder Stone – and I have learned such a lot from all your comments. I do hope to meet you all again next time around, and hopefully we can make an arrangement for a get-together at Hovey Manor. The only difficulty is, no one has access to any of our email addresses, so through this forum is the only way we can contact one another. And we would definitely want to have Louise with us! Anyway, we’ll just get a sense of how many might want or be able to come, perhaps for a long weekend, and whether next summer would work. Just another fun daydream!! Thanks everyone!!

I’d like to add my thanks to all of yours! This book group has been a wonderful experience – reading so many thoughtful, literary comments from you all, and feeling the deep love that Louise Penny inspires in her readers. I’d like to think that we have created a virtual Three Pines of our own!

I canceled my Amazon order for “The Long Way Home,” and ordered it from The Poisoned Pen bookstore. Not only will I get an autographed copy of the book, but I get to say “thank you” to Barbara Peters for participating in this discussion.

Wishing you all good reading-

Judy

Ah, thanks Anna! As a book addict, I tend toward the lowest prices, but I make sure to buy some books from independent bookstores. (Plus, it gives me a great excuse to buy books on any occasion when I’m actually in an independent bookstore!)

I might have learned the most when I disagreed vehemently with someone, because I had to try to decide why I felt so sure they were wrong, often needing to change perspectives radically. So powerful!

Defending a position with insight can be a powerful, and courageous way to discover what you really believe. Mounting a defence iningnorance, not so much.

Darn, I was editing the mistakes when I accidentally posted! I meant ‘in ignorance’.

I was going to add that I was pleased the arguments here were respectful and well thought out. Having opposing positions is to be expected, it’s nice when we can enjoy them.

Cathryne, have fun juggling grand baby while reading the next book. I think it would be good to start early and read aloud to the Bub. Just substitute quacks for the swear words!

Yes Anna, It was good to discuss different viewpoints and opinions, even very strong ones, as adults who respected each other. We can disagree on some points and still enjoy discussions and learn from others.
Tuesday will soon be here—-can’t wait.

Oops, I put the above in the wrong place. It belongs at the bottom of page 2 after Anna and Sylvia’s comments about language.

Doesn’t matter Cathryne. I find I am scrolling back over all the comments, savouring it all for as long as possible.

So am I, Anna. I wish we could continue to post and share our reading of The Long Way Home.
This has been different from any reading experience I have had – including local book clubs. It wasn’t just that we were reading the same books but that they were books we had chosen ourselves. We already loved Louise’s writing and were attached to her characters, including the village of Three Pines.
I want to thank everyone who has participated. I not only enjoyed our exchange of views and insights but I learned to look more deeply and carefully at books I already treasured. I also learned more about Canada and her history and peoples.
A heartfelt thank you to Louise Penny and Minotaur Publishers.
If a get together occurs at Hovey Manor, I will be the short, stout, white haired, bespectacled, lady saying “Hi, Ya’ll”. So for now I’ll say “Bye Ya’ll.

I also liked being able to read comments, think about them, come back to them and frame my thoughts. I wouldn’t say nearly as much or as clearly in real life. Still I would love to talk to you all on a leisurely afternoon by the fire.

And it’s not over yet….although we have to get the book, read the book and digest. Most of us had already read the other books, more than once in many cases. Wonder how reading a book cold will affect our responses. That will make it more like a traditional book club except, of course, we have our extensive and now learned background in the subject of Louise Penny’s writing. I expect the publishers to issue us with certificates in “Penny” to certify our study!

Now how to organise a Master’s course in the subject…..

A big thank you to everyone.

Anna, I would not have been able to organize my thoughts as well in a flesh and blood group either, even though I love the idea of getting together somewhere like Hovey Manor. This has been such a pleasure and a chance to learn and gain insight into my responses to the books, which I had already read and listened to several times, some more than others. When I reread the more painful books or parts instead of allowing myself to skip to the next favorite, I learned from what I had resisted. Those parts were important too. Because of this discussion about the first nine books, I know that I will read the next one with more perception and enjoyment.

Just a tip- Don’t try to post a meaningful comment while taking care of a seriously adorable grandbaby; it doesn’t work.

Yes, Anna, Louise Penny’s books are deceptively simple and readable. I know what you mean about books that feel like the author is trying too hard. It’s distracting and annoying. I love her command of language, graceful and so right on target. Her humor is such a delight because her timing is perfect and prepared for far in advance. It’s often the kind that is hard to share with someone else because “You had to be there.”

This re-read and discussion has been so enjoyable, and helpful. I want to thank all of you for your insights and brilliant thoughts on what you thought LP was telling us. I learned so much from all of you. Can’t wait for the new release!

Me too, Julie! I think I have come to appreciate the writing more than I ever did, and will see new things when I re-read these books again. Thank you, everyone, for your insights and ideas. I did like someone’s idea that perhaps we could set up a get-together, perhaps at the Manoir Bellechasse, i.e. Hovey Manor, North Hatley. This is a place that is familiar to me and I have always loved it! It would be a perfect place for us all to meet!

That might have been me, I certainly was thinking it. How lucky Sylvia that you have a manor at hand. Count me in…….it’s a bit of hike for me so plenty of notice please.

Oh my gosh. I have been looking at Hovey Manor online. It is perfect! Do you think one day…….it is on my wish list. We are going to Canada in January but the other side of the country. We have family plans to one day see so much more.

A great many years ago I lived in the Eastern Townships, and Hovey Manor was a special and delightful place to go. I had occasion to be in the area ten years ago for a family occasion and we all went to dinner at Hovey Manor. Still wonderful!

Just this evening, I got notice from Amazon that my copy of The Long Way Home has shipped and is guaranteed to arrive on Tuesday!! Wow! I hope I can make it last until the weekend! I’m afraid I might not be able to put it down and will finish reading it well before the weekend. It must amaze Louise to know that each new book is so eagerly awaited!

The anticipation is unbearable. I don’t have a copy ordered. I could get the Kindle version but I want to hold a copy in my hands. Then my husband has to read it. And my dad.

I envy you Sylvia to know your book is near and to have been to Hovey Manor. I shan’t let my envy grow into anything more evil though!

My Kindle version will be arriving just after midnight on Monday night/Tuesday morning – I wonder if I will gobble it up fast or try to savor it more? When Louise comes to the Seattle area the following week, I’m going to see her talk, and will be asking her to sign my Kindle cover – I couldn’t possibly collect a lot of signatures on there, but I really only ever envision wanting two – Louise and Lisa See!

Please tell her how much fun we have been having Julie. I don’t think she journeys to my part of the world unfortunately. I laughed when you said you would have her sign the Kindle cover. Maybe you could spring for a hard copy as well.

My first Penny was Bury Your Dead, bought in haste as I needed something to take on a cruise with my family. I bought it on the strength of reading the first page in the store. Of course I devoured it but the cruise ship didn’t stock Louise’s books. We paid for wifi so I could download more starting at the beginning. I had sciatica that trip so all I did was read. I am now trying to get hard copies of the books as I want to both have them and share them. E books are great for travel but real books are my first love.

It’s mush we aspire to flip through and find something in a real book for me, very useful for these discussions. But I do admit the ability to highlight and annotate on the E book is something I am coming to appreciate too in preparation for book group!

Gosh my typing is hopeless or the correct function is running riot…..

Not “mush we aspire” but “much easier”!

Hahaha – I thought you meant that mush was what you put on your Kindle and REAL books, you wanted a hard copy of, hahaha. I, too, think it’s much easier to search for certain details, and highlight in the Kindle version. I have most of Louise’s books in paperback as well as Kindle – I bought most of the Kindle versions for the re-read.

I had always thought that Yvette Nichol had released the video. I wish I could say why I believed that. Perhaps she thought to vindicate Armand’s actions by releasing it. Or she may have respected and valued Armands mentoring of her. There was more integrity and courage in her than I had given her credit for.

I think they mentioned, more than once, that it would take a certain level of technical expertise to leak the video and hide their tracks, as was done, which may be why Nichol came to mind, Shar. I thought maybe she did it, but I must admit, I thought she did it out of spite – to hurt. I realize now that she didn’t have that kind of strategic mind that would understand how it would hurt Armand to make it look like he was a hero, and to know that this would be just what would hurt him most. And I’m sure she never could have anticipated what happened when Beauvoir saw it. She saw what most of us saw – that Armand had such love for Jean Guy. Now that I really think about it, I don’t see how I could have thought she did it out of spite, but I was only looking at the results, not the intent.

I think that is a really interesting comment Julie: “I was only looking at the results, not the intent”.

I like the twist, well it was a twist to me, that Agent Nichol released the video thinking it was a good thing and not knowing how much hurt it would cause. Even though she is flawed she has a heart and stumbles and I relate more to that than her abrasiveness. It’s funny how Ruth is similarly caustic but I tolerate it, and even enjoy it from her, but not from Nichol. I guess that says more about me than it does about them.

What will I do when the book group ends. It’s almost as bad as finishing the last book!!

Anna, I think we accept more from Ruth because we know more about her heart, through her poetry and her kindnesses that we have seen and heard about in the books.

Ah, now Cathryne you may well be right. Ruth is more revealed to us than we imagine because we have those other sources to draw on for information. Do you think she gets a bit more dispensation because she cloaks her acid in wit? And are we more forgiving of those that are older than when young people are blunt? Perhaps we accept there is more truth in a comment if given by an older person than a younger one. The former dispensing hard wisdom and the latter being tactless?

I agree with Anna, too, that we are more forgiving of these traits in someone older – it probably has to do with being polite to our elders, which is almost everyone in Nichol’s case, and of course, she is not particularly polite, hahaha. I, too, think Nichol is a lot like Ruth. And I do hope she can mature in such a way as to be a little happier than Ruth is.

I thought it was Yvette that had leaked the video because it did show Gamache in a good light – as having done the very best anyone could have done in the circumstances. Francoeur would never have authorized the release of anything that made Gamache look good!! I was really glad Yvette ‘fessed up about releasing it and explained why. She was so remorseful for the hurt it had caused, and it was beautiful that he took her in his arms and comforted her.

I loved that scene too. I wondered when she had last been held, even touched with affection. I think it will be a turning point in her life. Telling Gamache what she had done will likely be the hardest truth she’ll ever have to tell.

Nichol’s confession that she had leaked the video made me want to comfort her.She had leaked the video from the factory to protect Armand. I was completely surprised. I always thought it was done by Francoeur.
Even in such an emotional moment, Louise let the Nichol we had come to expect appear. “He took her slimy hands and looked at her little face, blotched and wet with tears and mucus.” No dainty shedding of tears here. This was true remorse.

Yes Sylvia, I agree that the language is poetry. I like that it is comparatively simple and sparse as opposed to other books which are verbose and try too hard. The characters say just enough, never too much. The scenes are sketched with a quick encompassing hand. And yet that takes more skill, more effort, than throwing lots of words on the page and hoping the reader will wade through to the meaning.

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I gave up on a 700 page book because there were just too many unnecessary words to “wade” through to get to the story underneath. And I couldn’t uncover any joy or hope in the story. Plus I couldn’t wait to get back to Three Pines.

I agree Julie. It is like we don’t need to speak to share now. And there is definitely a sense of relief and exhaustion.

The growth across the novels is fascinating as deeper layers of plot and character are revealed. I wonder how much the characters changed or whether they were just more open to us by the end. Obviously Jean Guy was transformed. Even Annie changed as she entered into her relationship with Jean Guy.

Yvette Nichol was altered. Her job skills helped her find a mission and purpose. She was able to look at herself and her actions a little, not possible in the early books.

Myrna didn’t change and I suspect there is much more to be revealed. Not sure if Ruth changed or not. I suspect she was always what she was, capable of love but coated in bitterness as a shellac of protection. She is one I see as someone we came to see more clearly rather than altered.

Gamache…..mmmmm…..did he change? I think he behaved as the earliest Gamache would behave, with dignity, intelligence and compassion. He was battle weary and worried at the end but only as expected. To me he didn’t change, he was a steady rock that centered the books. I think that is important. To have some characters changing others need to be more reliable so we don’t feel chaos is in play. Reine Marie was another great steady hand.

Perhaps that is where Louise will take us. Allow some of the changed characters to provide a rock for others to undergo transformation.

Anna, this is a very interesting idea! I”ll be looking to see if that happens. I think I have learned a great deal from these discussions about various elements of the writing. As I mentioned before, I always get right into the story and quite often like to continue it in my mind after I have finished reading the book. I hope that I’m getting to appreciate the writing more, and, therefore, the writer more. One thing other than the plot that I do appreciate is the language – the choice of words, and I love the poetry in these books.

3. Choosing a favorite scene was difficult. I finally settled on Henri returning to his “home”–Emilie Longpre’s house. That he still carried the memory touched my heart. We know he loves Armand and Renie-Marie but did not forget Emilie Longpre. Later the house shelters Armand and the Brunels before becoming the Gamache home. The Gamaches gave Henri a home and now he has led them to a home in a very special place.

That was such a sweet scene, Barbara! I loved how Armand describes to the Brunels, and they think that while Henri is a handsome dog, he will never get into Harvard! That line has been mentioned as a favourite before in these discussions, and I apologize that I didn’t put it in quotation marks. So many delightful moments have involved Henri!

Henri is quite the symbol, isn’t he? As is Rosa, the duck who quietly quacks “f**k, f**k, f**k.” Louise Penny understands–and uses gracefully–the way in which we relate to our pets and how they sometimes play a pivotal part in our lives. I was so very sad when she lost her dog and so very happy when she and her husband found a new one. How many pets in your lives do you remember vividly and the roles they played in how you learn to live with joy and sorrow?

Here’s another question from that reading guide: If you have read any (or all) of Louise’s previous novels, what changes have you seen in the characters and in the books themselves?

I love that we have seen real growth and change in the characters. Beauvoir has gone through so much change. He’s left his wife, withdrawn into his pain, fallen down the rabbit hole, climbed back out, and finally, saved himself and Gamache. He might think he’s now back to where he was before, but I don’t think so. Seeing him and Ruth together gave us a peek into how to reach Beauvoir, and he began to understand some of the villagers instead of dismissing them as “crazy Anglos”!

Nichol’s progress from believing in her father completely, to understanding that Gamache is someone to look up to is somewhat profound, as well. I think that she would do anything for him, though she’d still like to know why, and she’s never going to be warm and fuzzy, I suspect.

Clara’s growth is wonderful to see. Even though, in this book, we see bits where she is talking to Peter even though he isn’t there, shows that she still loves him, but that she doesn’t really NEED him. It will be so interesting to see how this relationship plays out.

I think Olivier’s grown – he’s more thankful for the wonderful life he has in Three Pines, and knows so well now, how easy it is to lose it all. I don’t think he would ever do anything to jeopardize it again.

Gabri and Myrna have probably seen the least change or growth, and probably because they were already the most evolved of the group. Gabri is nothing but a sheer delight. He’s comfortable with himself and loves his friends and his happy life. Myrna uses her gifts as a therapist to help her friends and neighbors, but it’s not her “job” anymore, so she doesn’t feel the drudgery of the day to day listening to people recite their problems without really getting anywhere. Her insights have been most helpful to Gamache, and I know he appreciates her.

We haven’t seen change in Reine Marie, and again, I think it might just be because she’s already wonderful! How do you improve on that? Gamache has, no doubt, been changed by the “Arnot case”, but it’s harder to see exactly what the results of that will be. He is no longer in the Surete, but I feel like he will always solve puzzles and mysteries for people. I think he always knew that evil existed in the world – and he’d most likely already seen plenty of examples before this horrendous case came along. And he has always thought that good is found in people everywhere, you just need to know how and were to look. But I have no doubt he’s been changed by the events of the last nine books.

The last part of this question – how have the books themselves changed? They got darker and more complex as we went along. I read Still Life, expecting the average “cozy”. While it was so much more than that, by the time we came to How the Light Gets In, we had come on a long, dark and dangerous journey!

Yes, Julie, they certainly have got darker and more complex as we went along, building up to the tremendous crescendo just before the last chapter. I think that’s why we all cried at the wedding! One thing I’m curious about ‘re the wedding is where did the four monks come from and where did they go afterwards? The stress was on the plain chant in the plain church, but then the monks disappeared. There’s no mention of whether they even stayed for the rest of the service, but they weren’t there for the reception. I would very much love to think that Armand had persuaded Dom Philippe to allow four of his Gilbertines to come for the wedding because I did feel that a bond developed between the abbot and Gamache. Or the monks may have been from the monastery of St. Benoit du Lac, which isn’t nearly so far away. I’m not sure if they do plainchant there. But the mention of the monks and their beautiful singing was an important element in the early part of the service, so I have always wondered what became of them after their chant was done.

In my head Sylvia, the monks were Gilbertines, letting the light in with their music and similarly, being let into the light by coming out to sing. Of course that was an assumption. By not giving more detail, I like that Louise lets us add our own bits to the story.

I think we have been taking this journey together through all the books together to such an extent, that we are getting to a point where we feel the shared connection in reading and thinking about this book and the ending, but almost don’t feel the need to say anything, because we know we all feel the same, ultimately. We are so happy at the outcome, and were almost sick with worry and fear as the end drew nigh…

I went into the Reading Group Guide questions to see if any of those might spark a little more conversation (I’m not ready for it to end, and I’m not sure if the infrastructure here will be available for us to discuss The Long Way Home.) So – here are a few new things to think about:

1. Louise Penny has said that Three Pines isn’t just the setting for How the Light Gets In; it is a main character and plays a pivotal role. How do you view that character and that role?

I love this – and I see the truth in it. Three Pines has meant so much to Armand, and all of the main characters. It’s been familiar, friendly, and “home”. And now, it’s going to be their savior. By hiding here in the spot where there is no cell phone access, no high-speed internet connection, no satellite communication – it allows Gamache and the Brunel’s to hide “under the radar”, literally, while making sure they have the information they need to move on Francoeur and the others up high in the Surete. (please excuse my not using the correct accents everywhere – it’s just a pain to go and copy them from either Word or somewhere else on the site).

I love that Henri led Armand to the door of Emilie Longpre’s house, still sitting empty – as though waiting for Gamache to need it. And I love that Armand was open to seeing how it could help them. I also liked reading the descriptions of the house, and slowly realized it was going to become the Gamache home. How delicious!

Seeing how the townspeople came together to help – no questions asked – was wonderful. And I loved that one of the pivotal ending scenes was in the church, under those wonderful stained glass windows that depicted the sons the town had sent off to war. “They were our children”. And the scene where Armand is in the little schoolroom looking at the map where someone had written in “home” in the spot where Three Pines should be. This gave me such a nice feeling.

#7: Rosa! Many, many years ago our mom shared with us her very sad feelings about the mysterious disappearance of her beloved pet duck she was a child of seven. Her family did not have much in the way of material possessions in the early 1900’s, but this little creature gave her a special pride and joy. And love.

It is almost too horrendous for me to think about now, but that duck went “missing” the day before Christmas dinner and never returned. Fortunately, my mom did not put the truth of this coincidence into perspective until she was older, but I suspect the pain was reflected later in that special collection of little ducky knick-knacks gracing our 1940’s
home.

Gosh Jan. your poor mum. I am glad she didn’t realise the truth at the time but it still would have been awful whenever she worked it out. Love that she filled the home with her other ducks!

# 8 I could not believe Ruth gave her much loved Rosa to Jean-Guy. I wanted to shout “NO! NO! Please don’t!” when he said he could break her neck. I truly believed for that split second that he would kill her. I had the same dread and fear as if my dog or cat had run into the street in front of a car. Then she gave Rosa to him along with Myrna’s car keys. Yes, she loves Rosa and Jean-Guy.
I want to know so much more about Ruth. We learn a bit more about her in almost every book, but that makes me want to know more. Maybe in The Long Way Home.

Our library has one copy of this book. Whenever I find it on the shelf, I snatch it up in order to reread all my favorite parts (which is most of the book). Courage comes in many forms–I agree with so much that has been said by others here. I think Agent Nichol showed courage–not in her training as an agent–she certainly stepped up to the plate in both the computer hacking and taking out one of Francoeur’s agents, but her personal courage. Her confession to Gamache, especially after her first botched attempt, was a step she didn’t need to take–she could have assisted with the arrests, after all, and never told Gamache about releasing the video. I think that was her long sin, the shadow of which she could no longer bear. And I loved that she’s at the wedding with the Brunels.

I didn’t see the brother coming, I think I was so caught up in the events of the plot by Francoeur that I missed it–and so I felt like one of the group huddled together around the stove for the telling of that story.

Jean-Guy’s descent was such a weight on me in this story, I worried that his moment of redemption might come and mean his life forfeited–such a joyous resolution!

I think what I loved most about this book was the humor. Louise captured the inanity, the daily moments of laughter that come to us even in the midst of the most awful circumstances. Ruth as hockey ‘coach,’ Gabri’s over-the-top enthusiasms, the scene in the bistro when Francouer is trying to discover Gamache’s whereabouts, Henry and Rosa. The threat of forced yoga–all of those moments occur so naturally, they don’t seem intrusive–just wonderful, wonderful writing.

Oh dear Flora. I wish I could give you your own copy of this book and all the Penny’s. I dip into them so often I would be horrified not to have one at hand. You make me feel immensely grateful that I have my own books and appreciate them all the more.

I agree with everything you said. Agent Nichol is brave and a bit of a wonder. I was glad to be able to like and respect her more in this book. Nice character growth.

I thought we would all have so much more to say at this point but I wonder if the book left us emotionally wrung out. I do feel a bit exhausted by our journey to here. I imagine Louise did too. It is so hard to imagine where she will take us next. I almost feel as the bomb did explode. The world as we have known it in these stories has been torn apart. The dread has been vanquished….or has it. I am actually getting a little nervous as the release date for the next installment approaches.

I thought we would have more to say too, but I am having trouble expressing myself. I can’t seem to recover from the emotional drain of the second half of the book. There are so many points I want to address but the thoughts and words stumble over each other in my mind. Louise Penny has an amazing gift……to be able to involve readers so deeply in the world of her books. I am awed.

I agree with KB that the question of who showed the most courage is difficult. To answer this for myself I asked who had the most to fear, because courage to me is acting despite being afraid. To be afraid you have to understand what is at stake or what you perceive to be potentially lost if you don’t act.

Gamache is undoubtably courageous as he understood there was so very much at stake, although he did not always know the precise form of the threat. I still think of him crossing the bridge and looking at the child in the next car, fearing for everyone’s safety. But Gamache had training, temperament and a plan to help balance his fear. We may not have known it, but he had the support of a large number of his officers spread throughout the force in different departments. He had knowledge few of the others had. Still very brave, but he had time to prepare and calculate and reason out at least some of his actions.

Likewise, the villagers were certainly courageous to stand up in the face of danger. But they had each other and the help of the Brunel’s with their experience and steadiness, which certainly helps in a crisis. I am sure their fear was also tempered by a little bit of excitement.

To me, Jean Guy stood alone. In the end he made a very difficult decision and it was he alone who carried it through,when he was at his lowest ebb. Somehow he found the courage to shoot Gamache, risking the death of someone he loved very much and hadn’t yet had the chance to reconcile with. He risked losing Annie if he killed her father. He risked no one actually believing that he was taking the shot for the right reasons. He could have been Francouer’s last assassin. You could argue he had Lacoste’s support but I am not sure he had time to sense whether she was supporting him or just slow to stop him.

In the depths of despair it is hard to think, let alone find the energy to act and yet Jean Guy did. I think when he pulled over to follow the tracks into the woods it was the start of the the road home. But it was a journey only he could take and that first step must have seemed nigh on impossible.

Lacoste too was incredibly brave. She trusted herself to have faith in Jean Guy. That was also a moment of great aloneness with little to fall back on but the words of Gamache. She was trusting him too.

Anna, your sentence “He risked no one actually believing that he was taking the shot for the right reasons” reminded me of a conversation in an earlier book about doing right things for wrong reasons and if it was ever possible to do the wrong thing for the right reasons. I don’t remember which book that was in now. It certainly never occurred to me that the concept was placed there to point to a circumstance later on in the series. I haven’t yet learned how to read like that.

Sylvia, I don’t remember overtly the conversation about doing the right things for wrong reasons and vice versa. I do remember thinking as I read about Jean Guy pulling the trigger, if this goes badly where will that leave Jean Guy? Especially knowing that at that time nothing in his recent history suggested he was capable of good choices and rightful actions. Even leaving with Rosa was still about running away and looking for safety. Until he turned off the road and walked back into danger was Jean Guy really on the road toward redemption.

I think we do the wrong thing for the right reasons more often than we think……when we make mistakes or unwittingly upset people with no intention of doing so. Deliberately doing the wrong thing…..does the hacking the Brunels and Agent Nichol did count?

Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons happens with governments and corporations I am sure, for expediency and image. I don’t doubt Francouer and his cronies did some right things but more for keeping up appearances than because they wanted to be helpful. Otherwise their evil would have attracted a lot more attention.

With Q5, I thought Gamache was resigning so he could act as an individual, cutting his ties with the department to avoid his actions bringing more trouble for the Surete or his officers. I don’t think I suspected that it was a signal for anything more.

Old sins have long shadows. The theme Louise has constantly stressed as the cause of murder, some long ago slight or hurt which grows into resentment, anger and finally action. Do we all suffer under the shadow of some sin, done by us or to us? It’s quite a biblical concept, original sin and all. It feeds into Ruth’s poem…..Who hurt you once? And the nature of sanctuary and why we seek it.

“Seeking to forget makes exile all the longer; the secret of redemption lies in remembrance” Richard Von Weizsaeker, the first President of a reunified Germany. As President he spoke about the need for Germany and Germans to take responsibility for the history of Nazism.

The sins with long shadows are the ones ignored, the ones we fail to take responsibility for and try to bury.

The quote you reference is from “The beautiful Mystery”. Jean Guy posed the question to Gamache at the monastery before he started taking the pills again.

#8. The biggest surprise for me was Ruth giving, GIVING Rosa (and, yes, Myrna’s car!) to Jean Guy. I yelled in my mind, “No! Stop. You CAN’T.” I couldn’t breathe. I needed time to process what happened and realize what insight it showed in Ruth. I will always remember that moment when I think of love and selflessness and bravery. Louise Penny has a way of presenting us with a heart-stopping moment like this and making it work perfectly within the story.

Cathryne, I also think that, while Jean-Guy in his fog didn’t realize what the cops were doing at the schoolhouse, Ruth did, and she gave him Rosa and Myrna’s car key to urge him to get away to safety and take Rosa with him. Rosa meant more to her than she meant to herself, so if the village blew up and she died, at least those she loved the most would be safe.

I totally agree with you. Giving Rosa away was just unthinkable to me. It certainly is another instance of having to trust Louise.

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